Two years ago I’ve posted about the Fl 250 anti-aircraft headquarters in Saint-Marc near Saint-Nazaire. Back then more than 400 letters from all over Europe ended up at the office of the Service Territorial d’Architecture et du Patrimoine.

However, there was no reaction to any of these letters, although they were surprised by the big number of writings. Now, again, the bunker is in immediate danger! Send the same letter as last time to both:

Monsieur l’Architecte des Bâtiments de France  M. Dominique BERNARD
Service territorial de l’architecture et du patrimoine
DRAC Pays de Loire 1 rue Stanislas Baudry
F- 44035 Nantes cedex 1
FRANCE

And two more copies, just to let other officials on a higher level know.

Ministère de la Culture et de la Communication
3 rue de Valois
75001 Paris

and
M. Le Préfet des Pays de la Loire
Secrétariat Général pour les Affaires Régionales ( SGAR)
6 quai Ceineray
BP 33515
44035 NANTES Cedex 1

Information and letter come from the French Atlantikwall forum, the initiative was created by the brothers Luc et Marc Braeuer of the Grand Blockhaus museum at Batz-sur-Mer and Alain Durrieu, known for his books on ‘Bunkerart’.

Make the bunker’s slogan count even today: “Despite the violent forces against us….we must overcome”.

http://atlantikwall.superforum.fr/t14368-important-sauvetage-de-la-tour-de-flak-de-st-marc-sur-mer

Objet : inscription ou classement d’un élément architectural remarquable à St-Marc-sur-Mer (commune de Saint-Nazaire)

Monsieur,

Par ce courrier, nous souhaitons attirer votre attention sur la nécessaire sauvegarde d’un des plus remarquables vestiges du Mur de l’Atlantique situé à St-Marc-sur-Mer, 5 route Ste-Eugène. Cadastré EK 387, cet ouvrage appartient à la Commune de St-Nazaire.

Il s’agit d’un ensemble comprenant un Blockhaus type Fl 250 avec une Tour d’observation haute de 18 m reposant sur un large bunker enterré dans un état exceptionnel de conservation. Cet ancien poste de commandement de la DCA de la marine (Défense Contre Avions) a été construit en exemplaire unique en France. Sur le bunker enterré est construit un ancien mess de marine tout aussi remarquable, avec un patio, des colonnes en briques rouges et des poutres gravées. Il s’agit là d’un des tous derniers bâtiments de cette époque encore en place aujourd’hui. Cette construction dans son ensemble, qui a fait l’objet de nombreux référencements dans plus de 10 livres historiques, est visitée tous les ans par des centaines de passionnés, notamment des Hollandais, des Belges, des Britanniques et des Américains. Il est absolument indispensable, pour notre mémoire collective, d’inscrire ou de classer cet élément architectural remarquable. Son histoire est intimement liée avec le Raid héroïque mené par les Britanniques sur St-Nazaire en mars 1942.

A titre d’exemple, le Blockhaus d’Eperlecques dans le Nord-Pas-de-Calais a été classé monument historique. En Normandie (Calvados et Manche), tous les vestiges du Mur de l’Atlantique ont été intégralement classés ; ils font l’objet de soin, comme le Poste de Commandement de la Pointe du Hoc pour lequel les autorités américaines ont engagé plus de 4 millions de dollars de travaux pour consolider la falaise sur laquelle il repose. Dans les îles anglo-normandes, ce patrimoine est fortement mis en valeur par les autorités, tout comme au Danemark ou en Norvège. En Charente-Maritime, sur l’île de Ré, la Batterie Karola comprenant une haute tour d’observation bétonnée a été classé Monument Historique en 2004. Il est grand temps d’agir en Loire-Atlantique où, malgré une étude financée par la DRAC menée par M. Eric Lemerle en 1999, qui recense l’intégralité des vestiges du Mur de l’Atlantique dans le département, rien n’a été fait depuis. Alors qu’il était justement prévu, suite à cette étude, de classer une dizaine de sites les plus remarquables.

Nous vous prions d’agréer, Monsieur, l’expression de nos salutations respectueuses.

Restauration of the 622 of Ar 36 with naval beds, and stove. (Photo: GRAMASA)

Restauration of the 622 of Ar 36 with naval beds, and stove. (Photo: GRAMASA)

Last year I wrote about a recentely excavated 622 personnel bunker next to the light house of Cap Ferret. The restauration is under way and it looks very good and professional.

More pictures can be found via GRAMASA’s Picasa.

 

Work has started on the demolition of 100 bunker along the Danish coast.

For a sad video see http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/article.php/id-70959793:for-farlige-tyske-bunkere-spr%C3%A6nges-v%C3%A6k.html?fbs

122 bunkers along the Danish coast will be demolished in the coming months. This is because the concrete and steel remains pose a danger to the public.

According to TH on Axis History Forum the following bunkers will be demolished:

  • 1x L 410,
  • 1x L 411,
  • 1x 621,
  • 1x 676,
  • 5x 680,
  • at least 62 F-Stände (small machine gun bunkers) and
  • at least 25 Ringstände (types 58c and 67, one 65a).

He also mentions: “I’m not entirely sure about the L 411 and 621, because those two are still in decent condition. Only the locations of the bunkers have been published, not the types – I worked those out on my own. Nevertheless, the list should be fairly accurate.”

Next year the beaches will look different again, and new remains will show up. Is this the start of a bigger demolition campaign? More dangerous remains in the see remain untouched this year. Unfortunately it will happen so make your trip to the western coast around Thyborøn now, before bunkers have disappeared.

 

From the internet:

[quote]Hard to believe: The Nazis last stand in Aachen, the former “Hochbunker” (air raid shelter) between the Rütscherstr and Försterstr in Aachen is to be demolished, to be exchanged for more boring urban apartments with basement garage. It was here, on October 21st, 1944 that the last Wehrmacht commander in the first liberated German city surrendered to the Allies. Justification of the Bezirksregierung Köln: „Because of the extensive alterations the explanatory power has been lost.“ (3)

I do not agree with that. Its thick concrete walls still show the devastating results of shelling, which was needed to expel the Nazi dictatorship. Every pedestrian, old or young, will notice this damaged concrete block and will ask the awkward question: “What happened here?” One possible answer is: “This is the place where dictatorship and repression ended and where freedom and democracy in West-Germany began.”

Aachen was the first large German city captured by the Allies. Its commander Oberst Wilck surrendered, against Hitler’s order to fight until the very last man, as the Nazis wanted it to be. Instead, he and his surviving soldiers gave up. This was a tremendous symbolic moment for the whole world. (3, 8)

Ok, bunkers are not beautiful. It needs fantasy and imagination to make something out of it, to enable visitors to experience their history but also to regain the usability of this urban spot. But please not by just demolishing them completely and build some ordinary multi storey apartments instead! It is just Aachen showing that a better way of combining history and urban living is possible: The Hochbunker in the Lütticherstr is currently altered for a supermarket (5), the Hochbunker in the Kongreßstr holds apartments since 1992 (6, 9). These huge concrete boxes are monuments, especially the Hochbunker in the Försterstr, which should not vanish from our collective awareness: These Hochbunker are not only a remembrance of Nazi dictatorship, of repression and war atrocities, on days and nights with people seeking protection from air raids and bombing. Especially the Hochbunker in the Försterstr is one of the first places of the Hour Zero, from which a free democratic Germany emerged!

Please sign this petition to demand:

– withdrawal of the demolishing permit.
– addition of this Hochbunker to the Monuments Register.
– development of a concept, to ensure a combination of monumental value and urban usability.

Petition link: Der Hochbunker Försterstr in Aachen soll nicht für Stadtwohnungen weichen

Press sources:
1) http://www.aachener-nachrichten.de/lokales/aachen/bunker-abriss-100-anwohner-wehren-sich-1.567386
2) http://www.aachener-zeitung.de/lokales/aachen/bunker-200-nachbarn-unterschreiben-gegen-abriss-1.570897
3) http://www.aachener-nachrichten.de/lokales/aachen/auch-denkmalschuetzer-gegen-den-bunker-abriss-1.569237
4) http://www.aachener-nachrichten.de/lokales/aachen/bunker-ruetscher-strasse-anwohner-wollen-schutzengel-behalten-1.594420
5) http://www.aachener-nachrichten.de/lokales/aachen/luetticher-strasse-bunker-wird-ein-schickes-heim-1.360473
6) http://www.aachener-zeitung.de/lokales/aachen/bombengeschaeft-mit-aachens-alten-bunkern-1.339141
7) http://www.zeit.de/2004/44/A-Aachen
8) http://www.aachener-geschichtsverein.de/Online-Beitraege/die-schlacht-um-aachen
9
) The alternative way: http://www.architektur-bildarchiv.de/detail.php?picture_id=19294

Please sign this petition :

Vorname = first name Nachname = surname E-mail = email address Postleitzahl = postal code Warum unterschreiben Sie? = Why do you sign? (optional) Unterschreiben = sign[/quote]

The museum bunkers of the army coastal battery Azeville in Normandy have their impressive camouflage paint back. Painted as ruines with trees the Germans hoped the battery wouldn’t be spotted by the Allies. Some of the original paint was still visible beneath overhanging parts but the rest had faded. Now professional painters have done the same job as 70 years ago.

Six tourist offices in Normandy have created a new ‘Secteur Mythique’ in Normandie. This includes all the beaches and inland landing zones, except for the British parachute landing sites and Sword Beach.

Of course it’s all about money in Normandy. A lot of bunker complexes are turned into ‘museums’. With no knowledge whatsoever about the Atlantikwall most of the time. Now there’s the idea of ‘Mythical sector’, made up by six tourist offices, where the British sector is not included. The tourist office isn’t about history, but about tourism of course. But ideas like this will effect the perception of history in the future. Sign the petition, just to send a reminder of history to these tourist offices.

And visit the British sector, it’s one of the most beautiful areas of Normandy too!

http://www.change.org/petitions/suppression-du-secteur-mythique-des-plages-du-d%C3%A9barquement

Secteur Mythique Normandie.

Secteur Mythique Normandie.

The city of The Hague shows how you can preserve a bunker: incorporate it into urban design.

One of the three pre-war Dutch bunkers (which were part of the Atlantikwall during the war), was moved to the Army Engineers museum in Vught two years ago. Another was found but buried beneath the new boulevard. It’s however still visible. A thick glass plate covers the entrance shaft and the bunker’s building plan is visible on the pavement. A beautiful solution which shows that the historical value of bunkers is recognized more and more.

Photos and a 3D impression by Bas de Mos can be found on the website of the SAMS.

It’s been some time since I reported about the Masurische Grenzstellung and its bunkers. Stp Johannisburg around today’s Pisz lies nearby. Since several years the command bunker type 502 is being restored. In September last year it’s got his camouflage colors back in. Very nice work!

More photos http://rygielpisz.eu/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=54&func=view&catid=14&id=1343

502 in colors near Pisz. (Photo: http://rygielpisz.eu/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=54&func=view&catid=14&id=1343#1534)

502 in colors near Pisz. (Photo: http://rygielpisz.eu/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=54&func=view&catid=14&id=1343#1534)

Early November a new book about the Westwall was published. It’s not about the defence line as a whole, but about a particular part of it, the naval gun batteries in the Upper Rhine valley. I talked to one of the authors of the book, Sascha Kuhnert, to find out how the Kriegsmarine guns ended up at the French-German border.

First Sascha, tell me something about how you ended up writing this book. Where did your interest come from?

I am born directly at the German/French border of the upper Rhine valley and basicly grew up just a few hundred meters next to the river Rhine, and the remains of several bunkers of the German Westwall opposite to the French City of Strasbourg. In the beginning when we were kids the bunkers were our best playground, even or maybe especially because it was forbidden by our parents. Later I got interested in the history of those bunkers as well as that of our village. Already as teenager I started to speak with old people and was writing down what they knew. Our village was evacuated in the summer of 1940 during the attack on Alsace by the German 7th Army, because it was too close to the river front line. The whole village was moved next to the 24cm Batterie Maisenbühl-Oberkirch, and was watching how they came in action. I heard about this battery and others the first time through the stories of the old people in my village. I joined a local history club and so I met an ex member of the 17cm Batterie Urloffen in a neighbouring village. He happily told me his whole story in several meetings, which was great because he had been with the 17cm guns at the Westwall and moved with them to Channel coast near Calais. In fact he stayed their during the rest of the war until he became a British prisoner of war in 1944. He was the first, and one of the best sources I found. Nobody was really interested in his story or to see all the great pictures he had. I got fascinated about all this and here I got the first time the idea of writing a book about the subject. The story and pictures of this man can be found in the book.

At the same time I joined the German fortification study group “Interfest” to know more about the history of the Westwall and I also became a member of the “Arbeitskreis Westwalltag”. It was a time when the Internet was still really non-existing and it was much harder to obtain historical information. Here I met Friedrich Wein who was living nearby and had the same interest. He also had more information about many of the other naval batteries in our area. We became friends and started on the book project. That was more than 10 years ago.

17cm SK L40 sommer 1940 Batterie Urloffen. (Collection authors)

17cm SK L40 sommer 1940 Batterie Urloffen. (Collection authors)

 

How did the Kriegsmarine end up far away from the seas, in the Oberrhein area?

This is basically the hot point of the whole story and also an explanation for many other questions. It all started in 1938 before the Munich Agreement  and the fall of the Czech republic. Hitler was planning to attack the Czech republic with all his forces. At this time the German army was not able to fight a war on two fronts. The Westwall, which was just started to be constructed and was still nothing more than a loose and thin line of a hand full of bunkers. Especially at the Upper Rhine valley the situation was very bad and it was estimated that an enemy breech could be realized after only 3 days. Hitlers idea was to strengthen this weak area with heavy artillery which should threaten French cities in the Elsass in case of an attack of the Allied forces.

The big problem was, that the German Army (Heer) didn’t have such long range guns, because of the Treaty of Versailles. This treaty had the biggest impact on the German army and air force and during the 1930s they were just in the early beginning of their reinforcing. There were not enough new guns and the ones available had too little range to do the job. The German Navy however was the only force in Germany which was allowed to use large calibre guns, to protect the German coast line. The Versailles Treaty saw a pure defence in those coastal guns because the German coast was too far from the next neighbouring countries compared to the range of these guns. And of course it was not allowed to use them anywhere else than there, at the German coast.

So Hitler’s personal order to the Kriegsmarine was to borrow naval guns which had the necessary range and which were not needed in any new navy project. There was basically nothing else available than old naval guns which had been built before World War One. The Navy had to obey and even support the Army with supply, troops, ammunition and specialists to install and use the guns in the upper Rhine valley. The Navy had to act like the Army was in charge and the whole project was personally watched by Hitler himself. Hitler ordered that the guns should be ready for action in October 1938 because that was the moment when he planned the attack on the Czech Republic and the expected Allied attack in the West. Time was too short to build any bunkers and so all the naval guns were just placed in open gun emplacements on top of simple concrete platforms.

 

Press photo of Bt Meisenbühl (Photo: NARA)

Press photo of Bt Meisenbühl (Photo: NARA)

 

Was the planning of Kriegsmarine fortifications any different from the Heer fortifications?

After the Munich Agreement of September 1938 and the danger of an Allied attack was over, the Navy got the order to leave their guns at the Upper Rhine Valley until the summer of 1939 and at the same time move all navy soldiers back to the coast. Only a very few specialists still remained as instructors with the guns.

Hitler now planned the attack on Polen and needed even more and stronger fortifications on the western border. He cancelled all the actual bunker projects and orderd the “Limesprogramm”, which we are calling the Westwall today. Much more and stronger bunkers were built, and in closer range to each other. The naval guns were supported by own bunker types,- designed by the German fortification pioneers (Festungspioniere). The German navy never really had any influence in the construction and the design of those bunkers. The heavy strength of the Westwall bunkers for the naval guns (in the use of the army) was completly Hitlers idea. He first came up with the idea for 3,50 m thick concrete walls and roofs. This was also the first time bunkers in the Baustärke A (3,50m) were planned and built in the Westwall. So on that moment Baustärke A was born, because of the personal fear of Hitler of an Allied air raid against the naval batteries close to the French border. The bunker designs were officially part of the “Limesbauprogramm 1938” and named as “Regelbauten” (Regelbau 30, 30a, 34, 35, 36).

 

Remains of camouflage paint on a 17cm Regelbau 30 (Photo: Sascha Kuhnert)

Remains of camouflage paint on a 17cm Regelbau 30 (Photo: Sascha Kuhnert)

 

Can you describe the camouflage of some of these casemates?

Because the design of the bunkers was determined by the guns, the camouflage of all naval gun battery’s bunkers in the upper rhine valley was determined by the surrounded countryside of the area in which they had been built. Thus the camouflage was very different, varied and also changed in a few cases by the seasons and times.

In forested area:

Chopped young trees were fixed at the outer walls of the bunkers. The side walls were covered with earth and long trees were painted at the front wall around the Scharte.

In country side and fields:

Some gun bunkers and also the command and personnel bunkers were covered with a wooden outer layer of a fake house or farm building. For example a barn, a farm house with stable at the side, or a typical wooden frame house of the southern German style or, like in the case of the 24cm Batterie Maisenbühl/Oberkirch, in the style of the old “Schwarzwaldhaus” (Farm building of the Black Forest for a big family and cattle).

If bunkers in such an area had been covered with earth, they also got a camouflage by nets all over the bunker later. The same happened also at the big 30,5cm naval gun of the Batterie Ottenhöfen.

All the fake wooden house boards of the gun bunkers suffered a lot during the firing of the guns and got badly broken. For example the faked roofs almost completely lost their real tiles which fell down and broke. The cover for the huge gun Scharte, which was a big gate running in rails (like at a garage for big vehicles) got lifted out of its rails and broke completely. So by firing more and more rounds, the camouflage was completely stripped.

Were the batteries actually put to action anywhere in the war?

Oh yes they did. Almost all of the batteries came to action and were shooting at french cities (Hagenau, Strassburg, Colmar, Selestatt, Mühlhouse) from May 16 to June 18 1940. The firing mostly took place during the attack on the Alsace by the 7th German Army (General Dollmann) over the Rhine at the Operation “Kleiner Bär” from 15.6 – 18.6.1940. The naval guns of the Westwall mainly supported this attack. All together about 3200 rounds were fired by the naval batteries during this period. A detailed scheme of the time and the targets and also the reasons why the guns fired is outlined in our book.

 

The guns were transferred to the Channel Coast, here at Batterie M IV Cap Griz Nez. (Collection authors)

The guns were transferred to the Channel Coast, here at Batterie M IV Cap Griz Nez. (Collection authors)

 

What happened to them after the Blitzkrieg of 1940?

The guns were taken out of the bunkers by the gun crews themselves. Most of the crew members were sent to the French coast with the guns, back to the responsibility of the Kriegsmarine. The empty bunkers remained at the upper rhine valley, got locked and were watched (not guarded) by older reserve soldiers from the villages nearby. They acted more like some kind of official caretaker for all the Westwall bunkers in their area. In the late autum of 1944 orders had been given to reinforce these bunkers with new and modern guns, this time from the army. These works went very succesful for the two bunkers of the ex. 24cm Batterie Maisenbühl/Oberkirch, but failed for the 17cm batteries. No information is known of any new use of these ex. 17cm bunkers or the finishing of the rearming work. Both old 24cm gun bunkers received new 21cm Kanone 52 (Also known as V3) from Skoda and came to action by shooting on Strassburg and later supporting a German counterattack over the Rhine as part of Operation Nordwind in January 1945. After the occupation of the Upper Rhine valley by the First French Army in April 1945 the first bunkers which were systematically blown up and stripped of all their metal parts were the bunkers of the old naval batteries. Only three ruins of all the twenty gun bunkers are left nowadays and are in bad shape but still visible. Furthermore several smaller objects are still to be seen but difficult to find like small bunkers for the communication system, the water supply and remains of barracks.

 

Frontside of the 17cm Regelbau 30 near Karlsruhe (Photo: Sascha Kuhnert)

Frontside of the 17cm Regelbau 30 near Karlsruhe today (Photo: Sascha Kuhnert)

 

Should I plan a vacation next week to see all the batteries in the Oberrhein area? 🙂

Not for the few remains of the batteries. There are only some interesting ruins at the last remaining battery near Karlsruhe. We (Friedrich Wein and me) are now trying to raise public interest for this difficult part of German history and think of offering free guided tours a few times a year for everybody. We also try to prevent the few ruins from further destruction through raising this extra awareness.

As a matter of fact it is just pure luck, that we received such a huge amount of old original pictures of the gun batteries which had been taken during the war. And because we present those pictures together with the old pictures from the batteries at the French coast, it gives you a better insight and impression of the whole story than text only.

 

17cm Regelbau 30 guided tour by both authors.

17cm Regelbau 30 guided tour by both authors.

 

Are you working on a new project already?

Not at the moment, because the last 14 months had been very busy with the writing work of the 638 pages for the book.  I just need a bit of a break. I am very sure however, that it was not my last project about the Westwall fortifications in my home area and that I already have a few new ideas.

Anyway I am constantly doing research about the Westwall in the Upper Rhine valley from Karlsruhe to the Swiss border. This includes both field work as well as research in various archives to document that part of the last German fortification line in the west of Germany.

Thank you so much Sascha for taking the time to answer these questions! It sure looks like an interesting book!

Die Marinegeschütze des Westwalls am OberrheinDie Marinegeschütze des Westwalls am Oberrhein. Ein Beitrag zur Geschichte der deutschen Westbefestigungen 

Author : Sascha Kuhnert & Friedrich Wein
640 pages and 489 B&W and color photo’s , drawings, sketches, maps, schematics, text
Cover: Hardcover
Language: German
size: A4
weight: 2.6 kg
ISBN: 978-3-937779-29-4
Puplished by: Explorate-Verlag
Price : 35.00 Euro + porto
Sold at Explorate-Verlag and Fortress Books

The Arbeitskreis Westwalltag organises guided three day tours in special parts of the Westwall once a year.